Comments on: The death of school http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234 Witness everything Mon, 02 Aug 2010 05:40:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Best of blog 2008 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-6855 Best of blog 2008 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:20:48 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-6855 [...] The death of school [...] [...] The death of school [...]

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]]> By: Ian http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-2651 Ian Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:40:09 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-2651 While you make a good point, what I'm trying to say is that the need to remember that kind of information has passed, since it's always available at the beck and call of the students on a wide variety of devices which they have with them at all times. The need to know something that obscure outside of school is more or less non-existent (other than an appearance on Jeopardy), so we just have to make sure they know (a) how to get at the information when they need it; and (b) how to apply the information to situations that will be useful in the real world. While you make a good point, what I’m trying to say is that the need to remember that kind of information has passed, since it’s always available at the beck and call of the students on a wide variety of devices which they have with them at all times. The need to know something that obscure outside of school is more or less non-existent (other than an appearance on Jeopardy), so we just have to make sure they know (a) how to get at the information when they need it; and (b) how to apply the information to situations that will be useful in the real world.

]]> By: Roger Sweeny http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-2648 Roger Sweeny Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:45:40 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-2648 Mindlessly memorizing, "The corn laws were repealed in 1846" doesn't gain the students much. But ... in order to think about their effects, you have to know what came before and what came after, which means knowing when they ceased to exist. In order to think about why they were repealed, you similarly have to know what was before and what was after. Any understanding of history requires some, I think the educational buzzword is scaffold, to put your reasons in. You can look things up but then you have to remember them for as long as you are trying to understand them. Perhaps the most pathetic things in education are where students pretend to do Bloom 6 things ("evaluation") when they hardly have a basic knowledge of the facts. Mindlessly memorizing, “The corn laws were repealed in 1846″ doesn’t gain the students much. But … in order to think about their effects, you have to know what came before and what came after, which means knowing when they ceased to exist. In order to think about why they were repealed, you similarly have to know what was before and what was after.

Any understanding of history requires some, I think the educational buzzword is scaffold, to put your reasons in. You can look things up but then you have to remember them for as long as you are trying to understand them.

Perhaps the most pathetic things in education are where students pretend to do Bloom 6 things (“evaluation”Wink when they hardly have a basic knowledge of the facts.

]]> By: Dennis Fermoyle http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-2539 Dennis Fermoyle Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:45:25 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-2539 Ian, when I earned my masters, I was hit with a lot of process over content, and I never really bought into it. After what I wrote, and after what you wrote, maybe I need to give it a lot more consideration. Thanks for making me think. Ian, when I earned my masters, I was hit with a lot of process over content, and I never really bought into it. After what I wrote, and after what you wrote, maybe I need to give it a lot more consideration. Thanks for making me think.

]]> By: Ian http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-2519 Ian Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:34:02 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-2519 Yes, actually - I thought it was funny that I actually cover that in my History 10 class, given Mandi's stories about her grandfather. Yes, actually – I thought it was funny that I actually cover that in my History 10 class, given Mandi’s stories about her grandfather.

]]> By: John http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-2464 John Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:23:08 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-2464 Interesting article. Where did the "repeal of the corn laws" phrase come from? Anything to do w Mandi's g-father? Interesting article. Where did the “repeal of the corn laws” phrase come from? Anything to do w Mandi’s g-father?

]]> By: Dawn Kilmer http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234&cpage=1#comment-2448 Dawn Kilmer Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:23:29 +0000 http://www.marturia.net/blog/?p=3234#comment-2448 ah, grasshopper, well put.... ah, grasshopper, well put….

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